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		<title>By: If Kobe Bryant Was On Your Basketball Team, Would You Make Him Coach? &#171; Mental Pandiculation</title>
		<link>http://www.softwarebyrob.com/2007/10/15/q-a-on-leaving-management-for-development/comment-page-1/#comment-17496</link>
		<dc:creator>If Kobe Bryant Was On Your Basketball Team, Would You Make Him Coach? &#171; Mental Pandiculation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that innate desire to create mentioned in the link above. They don&#8217;t work at companies where &#8220;coders seem to be considered commodities and low level craftsman&#8221;. I really don&#8217;t understand how companies run by smart people can think that promoting the very [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that innate desire to create mentioned in the link above. They don&#8217;t work at companies where &#8220;coders seem to be considered commodities and low level craftsman&#8221;. I really don&#8217;t understand how companies run by smart people can think that promoting the very [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with you about going the contractor/consulting route.  In my last perm job, I made the same hours vs. pay &amp; effort vs my peers and said &#039;Nuts to this&#039;!

However, it takes a certain personality. If you are entrepreneurial and don&#039;t freak out when your gig is up and you have no job, you are a good candidate.  If you need stable, predictable insurance and pay, perm is better.  As a consultant, your skills are your job security.

You will also get treated differently.  Some employees, dissatisfied with their lot, will consider you thier dog.  Use a rolled up newspaper and a firm voice saying &quot;No!&quot;  Cause you&#039;re not there to make friends, but rather to get a job done.

All in all, I&#039;m glad I went the consultant route.  For comparison sake:

33 yrs old
ASP.Net/C#/SQL/AD/etc
Perm: $80k
Consulting: $55/hr or ~$115k

I plan to excerise an LLC I set up recently and go 1099 for ~$70/hr or $145k</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with you about going the contractor/consulting route.  In my last perm job, I made the same hours vs. pay &amp; effort vs my peers and said &#8216;Nuts to this&#8217;!</p>
<p>However, it takes a certain personality. If you are entrepreneurial and don&#8217;t freak out when your gig is up and you have no job, you are a good candidate.  If you need stable, predictable insurance and pay, perm is better.  As a consultant, your skills are your job security.</p>
<p>You will also get treated differently.  Some employees, dissatisfied with their lot, will consider you thier dog.  Use a rolled up newspaper and a firm voice saying &#8220;No!&#8221;  Cause you&#8217;re not there to make friends, but rather to get a job done.</p>
<p>All in all, I&#8217;m glad I went the consultant route.  For comparison sake:</p>
<p>33 yrs old<br />
ASP.Net/C#/SQL/AD/etc<br />
Perm: $80k<br />
Consulting: $55/hr or ~$115k</p>
<p>I plan to excerise an LLC I set up recently and go 1099 for ~$70/hr or $145k</p>
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		<title>By: prashant</title>
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		<dc:creator>prashant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

Good post and i really like it.

Thanks
Prashant Jalasutram
http://prashantjalasutram.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>Good post and i really like it.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Prashant Jalasutram<br />
<a href="http://prashantjalasutram.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://prashantjalasutram.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frank C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David - Yes I&#039;m 48 and I&#039;ve experienced a lot of ageism in the past few years. I don&#039;t think there is a way around it except to find employers who will look past your age. For example, where I&#039;m working now, a healthcare services company, all of the developers are over 40. Unfortunately, such companies are few and far between.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David &#8211; Yes I&#8217;m 48 and I&#8217;ve experienced a lot of ageism in the past few years. I don&#8217;t think there is a way around it except to find employers who will look past your age. For example, where I&#8217;m working now, a healthcare services company, all of the developers are over 40. Unfortunately, such companies are few and far between.</p>
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		<title>By: Wael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about taking the route of Solution Architect? It is a growing field.  Alternatively, it may deem more beneficial and rewarding for those who are passionate about their coding career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about taking the route of Solution Architect? It is a growing field.  Alternatively, it may deem more beneficial and rewarding for those who are passionate about their coding career.</p>
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		<title>By: The Fallacy of Management &#124; Software by Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Fallacy of Management &#124; Software by Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] case you missed Gates VP&#8217;s comment about The Fallacy of Management on my recent post Q &amp; A on Leaving Management for Development, I&#8217;ve re-printed it [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my career I&#039;ve moved from management to development 3 times without harm to my salary or my career. Each time I was asked to be a manager and did not have the self-confidence to say no. What is forcing me into management now is age discrimination. After a certain age it seems that no matter what your technical accomplishments or abilities, it is extremely hard to get hired as a developer. Everyone assumes you&#039;re not technically current or energetic or a long list of other prejudices. How do you get around that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my career I&#8217;ve moved from management to development 3 times without harm to my salary or my career. Each time I was asked to be a manager and did not have the self-confidence to say no. What is forcing me into management now is age discrimination. After a certain age it seems that no matter what your technical accomplishments or abilities, it is extremely hard to get hired as a developer. Everyone assumes you&#8217;re not technically current or energetic or a long list of other prejudices. How do you get around that?</p>
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		<title>By: Programming &#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Frase genial da semana</title>
		<link>http://www.softwarebyrob.com/2007/10/15/q-a-on-leaving-management-for-development/comment-page-1/#comment-661</link>
		<dc:creator>Programming &#8230; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Frase genial da semana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Software By Rob &amp; Coding [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is funny.  At every business I have worked at they seem more ready to hire more managers than to hire more and better programmers who are doing the actual work.  

Managers definitely have there place but I have to question an org chart where the manager to developer ratio is 1:1 or even 2 or 3 to 1.  

At the end of the day, I think if you don&#039;t go the consultant or contractor route, that management is the best option for earning more and getting more say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is funny.  At every business I have worked at they seem more ready to hire more managers than to hire more and better programmers who are doing the actual work.  </p>
<p>Managers definitely have there place but I have to question an org chart where the manager to developer ratio is 1:1 or even 2 or 3 to 1.  </p>
<p>At the end of the day, I think if you don&#8217;t go the consultant or contractor route, that management is the best option for earning more and getting more say.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I most recently worked at a large software company which also had a technical track that paralleled the management track.  In my experience, it doesn&#039;t work out as well in practice as it does in theory.  Having no reports severely undercuts your authority, even if you have the seniority and power according to the org chart. It&#039;s like when the government appoints a &quot;czar&quot; to oversee something but don&#039;t give that person budgetary authority... since you don&#039;t really control the resources, you don&#039;t really control anything at all.  The real managers can and will say &quot;no&quot; to your ideas.  I know of at least one top engineer who quit the company rather than be put into that position of authority/non-authority.  At least in this particular company, the only way to really gain company-wide influence was to enter the management track.

Also, at least at my previous employer, your statement about a manager&#039;s job being less secure than a technical director&#039;s would not hold.  A manager would have much more interaction with higher-ups in the company and would be part of their &quot;club&quot; ... even if his/her project was canceled, the upper management would find a place for the manager to land.  Whereas with a technical director, management wouldn&#039;t see as much detrimental effect in the person leaving, as they&#039;re not obviously essential to day-to-day operations and probably not as visible in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I most recently worked at a large software company which also had a technical track that paralleled the management track.  In my experience, it doesn&#8217;t work out as well in practice as it does in theory.  Having no reports severely undercuts your authority, even if you have the seniority and power according to the org chart. It&#8217;s like when the government appoints a &#8220;czar&#8221; to oversee something but don&#8217;t give that person budgetary authority&#8230; since you don&#8217;t really control the resources, you don&#8217;t really control anything at all.  The real managers can and will say &#8220;no&#8221; to your ideas.  I know of at least one top engineer who quit the company rather than be put into that position of authority/non-authority.  At least in this particular company, the only way to really gain company-wide influence was to enter the management track.</p>
<p>Also, at least at my previous employer, your statement about a manager&#8217;s job being less secure than a technical director&#8217;s would not hold.  A manager would have much more interaction with higher-ups in the company and would be part of their &#8220;club&#8221; &#8230; even if his/her project was canceled, the upper management would find a place for the manager to land.  Whereas with a technical director, management wouldn&#8217;t see as much detrimental effect in the person leaving, as they&#8217;re not obviously essential to day-to-day operations and probably not as visible in general.</p>
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		<title>By: Gates VP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gates VP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a working theory that I&#039;ve title &lt;b&gt;The Fallacy of Management&lt;/b&gt;.

The basic definition is that current managers would have us believe that the work they do is the very reason for project success and therefore they believe (and have convinced others) that their&#039;s is the most important role.

The real truth is that most managers are just overhead, projects would likely self-assemble without them, especially with good devs on the job. However, companies do things like targeting management for bonuses and taking other steps to make management a &quot;position of privilege&quot;.  The truth is, good managers don&#039;t deliver projects on time, good programmers deliver projects on time and managers just guide the process.

The concept of &quot;separate streams&quot; begins to address the problem of Technical Expertise vs Managerial Expertise. But it&#039;s also an industry thing. &quot;Similar&quot; professional industries, like engineering or accounting, all have a kind of set progression chart from grunt to project manager. Most current &quot;managers&quot; don&#039;t actually recognize the difference between &lt;b&gt;our&lt;/b&gt; and the engineering field, let alone begin to address the number of engineering project managers who probably shouldn&#039;t be there anyways.

It&#039;s the Peter Principle + poor management + uncertain staff (like yourself at times) that allow the whole vicious cycle to keep turning. Every once in a while, people get off the cycle (like you), but right now we&#039;re still early in the game and there are more people hopping on the bike rather than off.

In 10 years, people will know better, the industry will mature (a little) and the Technical / Managerial divide will be well-documented. There&#039;s a trend right now that&#039;s dividing the industry and that&#039;s the &quot;Great Development Houses&quot; vs. &quot;The Body Shops&quot;. Expect that the former will pick up on (or has picked up on) this divide and that they&#039;re capitalizing by hiring the right people into the right positions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a working theory that I&#8217;ve title <b>The Fallacy of Management</b>.</p>
<p>The basic definition is that current managers would have us believe that the work they do is the very reason for project success and therefore they believe (and have convinced others) that their&#8217;s is the most important role.</p>
<p>The real truth is that most managers are just overhead, projects would likely self-assemble without them, especially with good devs on the job. However, companies do things like targeting management for bonuses and taking other steps to make management a &#8220;position of privilege&#8221;.  The truth is, good managers don&#8217;t deliver projects on time, good programmers deliver projects on time and managers just guide the process.</p>
<p>The concept of &#8220;separate streams&#8221; begins to address the problem of Technical Expertise vs Managerial Expertise. But it&#8217;s also an industry thing. &#8220;Similar&#8221; professional industries, like engineering or accounting, all have a kind of set progression chart from grunt to project manager. Most current &#8220;managers&#8221; don&#8217;t actually recognize the difference between <b>our</b> and the engineering field, let alone begin to address the number of engineering project managers who probably shouldn&#8217;t be there anyways.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the Peter Principle + poor management + uncertain staff (like yourself at times) that allow the whole vicious cycle to keep turning. Every once in a while, people get off the cycle (like you), but right now we&#8217;re still early in the game and there are more people hopping on the bike rather than off.</p>
<p>In 10 years, people will know better, the industry will mature (a little) and the Technical / Managerial divide will be well-documented. There&#8217;s a trend right now that&#8217;s dividing the industry and that&#8217;s the &#8220;Great Development Houses&#8221; vs. &#8220;The Body Shops&#8221;. Expect that the former will pick up on (or has picked up on) this divide and that they&#8217;re capitalizing by hiring the right people into the right positions.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only real downside about becoming a consultant is the need to develop soft skills in marketing and sales and the time it takes to build up a client base.  If you&#039;re lucky (and smart), you can use your previous employers to start, and I&#039;ve heard of small consultancies where the developer contracted out the sales and marketing work to someone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only real downside about becoming a consultant is the need to develop soft skills in marketing and sales and the time it takes to build up a client base.  If you&#8217;re lucky (and smart), you can use your previous employers to start, and I&#8217;ve heard of small consultancies where the developer contracted out the sales and marketing work to someone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Mooch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mooch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lately I&#039;ve entertained the idea of becoming a contractor/consultant/freelancer.  I haven&#039;t convinced myself that I&#039;ll have enough work to sustain a career out of it yet.  

I started at the company I&#039;m at now as an entry level ASP developer where we had a company of 5 people.  Within 3 years we had 15 people, including 5 developers.  During this time I was promoted to Software Development Manager, though I still coded quite a bit.  We now are back to 5 people, and sadly enough I&#039;m the only one left that can write .Net code.  My job is not invaluable by default though, I&#039;m just playing many roles right now.  

With less people to manage, I&#039;m taking the time to ponder on what made those developers leave and where our contracts went.  Most of our troubles deals with goverment spending though 2 of our top developers left on their own will.

As for pay, my pay as a developer was mid-range for the area, but doubled when I became Software Development Manager.  I get the title, the money, and get to act like a developer.  Winner winner chicken dinner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lately I&#8217;ve entertained the idea of becoming a contractor/consultant/freelancer.  I haven&#8217;t convinced myself that I&#8217;ll have enough work to sustain a career out of it yet.  </p>
<p>I started at the company I&#8217;m at now as an entry level ASP developer where we had a company of 5 people.  Within 3 years we had 15 people, including 5 developers.  During this time I was promoted to Software Development Manager, though I still coded quite a bit.  We now are back to 5 people, and sadly enough I&#8217;m the only one left that can write .Net code.  My job is not invaluable by default though, I&#8217;m just playing many roles right now.  </p>
<p>With less people to manage, I&#8217;m taking the time to ponder on what made those developers leave and where our contracts went.  Most of our troubles deals with goverment spending though 2 of our top developers left on their own will.</p>
<p>As for pay, my pay as a developer was mid-range for the area, but doubled when I became Software Development Manager.  I get the title, the money, and get to act like a developer.  Winner winner chicken dinner.</p>
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		<title>By: An Experiment in Scotch &#187; If Kobe Bryant Was On Your Basketball Team, Would You Make Him Coach?</title>
		<link>http://www.softwarebyrob.com/2007/10/15/q-a-on-leaving-management-for-development/comment-page-1/#comment-634</link>
		<dc:creator>An Experiment in Scotch &#187; If Kobe Bryant Was On Your Basketball Team, Would You Make Him Coach?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that innate desire to create mentioned in the link above. They don&#8217;t work at companies where &#8220;coders seem to be considered commodities and low level craftsman&#8221;. I really don&#8217;t understand how companies run by smart people can think that promoting the very [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that innate desire to create mentioned in the link above. They don&#8217;t work at companies where &#8220;coders seem to be considered commodities and low level craftsman&#8221;. I really don&#8217;t understand how companies run by smart people can think that promoting the very [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Theo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found out yesterday that I&#039;m being royally screwed by the company I work for. They definitely don&#039;t care about keeping the talented employees. I&#039;m looking into working for a consulting firm, agencies, and contracting in the near future. -- When it comes to the management/developer split, it seems the developers get shafted if the organization has developers to support it&#039;s main business. When the organizations main business is developers the reverse seems to be true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found out yesterday that I&#8217;m being royally screwed by the company I work for. They definitely don&#8217;t care about keeping the talented employees. I&#8217;m looking into working for a consulting firm, agencies, and contracting in the near future. &#8212; When it comes to the management/developer split, it seems the developers get shafted if the organization has developers to support it&#8217;s main business. When the organizations main business is developers the reverse seems to be true.</p>
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		<title>By: An Interesting Read on Management versus Development - Greg Robinson's Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Interesting Read on Management versus Development - Greg Robinson's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#160;This is something I think about often, glad to see others do to.&#160; I enjoy management but often wish I was back in the trenches architecting, designing and developing.    Published Oct 16 2007, 09:43 AM by gregarobinson [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &nbsp;This is something I think about often, glad to see others do to.&nbsp; I enjoy management but often wish I was back in the trenches architecting, designing and developing.    Published Oct 16 2007, 09:43 AM by gregarobinson [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Wagner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well put Rob. Among my colleagues and friends we have a saying (its corny I know) that goes something like &quot;Its the skills that pay the bills&quot;.  My personal experience with management parallels your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well put Rob. Among my colleagues and friends we have a saying (its corny I know) that goes something like &#8220;Its the skills that pay the bills&#8221;.  My personal experience with management parallels your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelDotNet</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelDotNet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually took an &quot;employee requested demotion&quot; from Team Lead in order to get a job as a Programmer, it was a lateral move on the pay scale though.  Looking at a new job that would likely be considered another &quot;demotion&quot; in order to become even more entrenched in the software developer world...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually took an &#8220;employee requested demotion&#8221; from Team Lead in order to get a job as a Programmer, it was a lateral move on the pay scale though.  Looking at a new job that would likely be considered another &#8220;demotion&#8221; in order to become even more entrenched in the software developer world&#8230;</p>
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