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		<title>By: Five Reasons You Haven&#8217;t Launched &#124; Software by Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.softwarebyrob.com/2009/07/14/one-of-the-most-common-startup-roadblocks/comment-page-1/#comment-42239</link>
		<dc:creator>Five Reasons You Haven&#8217;t Launched &#124; Software by Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the most time consuming startup roadblocks is your need to control every detail and do every piece of work yourself. When you&#8217;re [...]</description>
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		<title>By: almost effortless &#187; Weekly Digest, 7-19-09</title>
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		<dc:creator>almost effortless &#187; Weekly Digest, 7-19-09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One of the Most Time Consuming Startup Roadblocks So take a risk this month: outsource your first task and see where it takes you. When was the last time a single tool or work habit offered the opportunity to save 20-60 hours in a month? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One of the Most Time Consuming Startup Roadblocks So take a risk this month: outsource your first task and see where it takes you. When was the last time a single tool or work habit offered the opportunity to save 20-60 hours in a month? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.softwarebyrob.com/2009/07/14/one-of-the-most-common-startup-roadblocks/comment-page-1/#comment-21019</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Command line commands are incredibly simple, indeed. And in this case by some incredible coincidence it would have saved you 15 minutes.

But the other 30 things I outsourced this month could not have been solved by bash/grep/awk/sed.

Claiming that knowing command line tool can save you more time than outsourcing (unless all you do is download photos all day) is just plain missing the boat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Command line commands are incredibly simple, indeed. And in this case by some incredible coincidence it would have saved you 15 minutes.</p>
<p>But the other 30 things I outsourced this month could not have been solved by bash/grep/awk/sed.</p>
<p>Claiming that knowing command line tool can save you more time than outsourcing (unless all you do is download photos all day) is just plain missing the boat.</p>
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		<title>By: P</title>
		<link>http://www.softwarebyrob.com/2009/07/14/one-of-the-most-common-startup-roadblocks/comment-page-1/#comment-21011</link>
		<dc:creator>P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize it&#039;s better to not spend your time doing laborious work. However knowing enough about bash/grep/awk/sed can save you even more time than outsourcing. You don&#039;t have to know everything, but grepping out links and getting images? That&#039;s something *incredibly* simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize it&#8217;s better to not spend your time doing laborious work. However knowing enough about bash/grep/awk/sed can save you even more time than outsourcing. You don&#8217;t have to know everything, but grepping out links and getting images? That&#8217;s something *incredibly* simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh #2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh #2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great article.  I especially liked the list of tasks to take a product from idea to 1wk post-launch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great article.  I especially liked the list of tasks to take a product from idea to 1wk post-launch.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the article Rob.
Very insightful.
I have used outsourcing in the past for certain projects, yet I never made the distinction of &#039;drip outsourcing&#039;.

Work has been done from all over the world for my projects... everything from graphics design, to software installations in my websites, legal documents, presentation &#039;pretty-up&#039; by a graphics designer team, etc.

I am browsing with interest the Elance.com website.
It is new to me! Thanks!
The two websites I always worked with was GetAFreelancer.com and RentACoder.com
Elance.com looks very slick!

Have a great day everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the article Rob.<br />
Very insightful.<br />
I have used outsourcing in the past for certain projects, yet I never made the distinction of &#8216;drip outsourcing&#8217;.</p>
<p>Work has been done from all over the world for my projects&#8230; everything from graphics design, to software installations in my websites, legal documents, presentation &#8216;pretty-up&#8217; by a graphics designer team, etc.</p>
<p>I am browsing with interest the Elance.com website.<br />
It is new to me! Thanks!<br />
The two websites I always worked with was GetAFreelancer.com and RentACoder.com<br />
Elance.com looks very slick!</p>
<p>Have a great day everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.softwarebyrob.com/2009/07/14/one-of-the-most-common-startup-roadblocks/comment-page-1/#comment-20944</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To x:
The point is that as a software engineer you get obsessed with irrelevant detail. You have ego and a desire to solve problems yourself. You can&#039;t let go. You want to be the hero of every situation and the bride at every wedding.

You may be able to solve the problem faster. But you can&#039;t do it cheaper. If you think you can, you have very much underestimated the value of your time.

If it were critical, sure. You&#039;d have to do it. But almost nothing is that critical. And you&#039;ll never learn the difference, or how to delegate, if you do everything yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To x:<br />
The point is that as a software engineer you get obsessed with irrelevant detail. You have ego and a desire to solve problems yourself. You can&#8217;t let go. You want to be the hero of every situation and the bride at every wedding.</p>
<p>You may be able to solve the problem faster. But you can&#8217;t do it cheaper. If you think you can, you have very much underestimated the value of your time.</p>
<p>If it were critical, sure. You&#8217;d have to do it. But almost nothing is that critical. And you&#8217;ll never learn the difference, or how to delegate, if you do everything yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: x</title>
		<link>http://www.softwarebyrob.com/2009/07/14/one-of-the-most-common-startup-roadblocks/comment-page-1/#comment-20943</link>
		<dc:creator>x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@p: it&#039;s the view source, copy paste that takes most time

you can cookup a script to fetch source code, regex find image links, loop fetch the images -- maybe a one liner wget downloading 1-level-deep jpg file is easier

@rob: the whole deal can be done in at most 5 mins.  if this step is critical to an important project, you eliminate the delay of 90sec+20min+waiting_hours, not mentioning the dollar wasted

your va probably did the same (view source, copy url, get image) that s/he spent 20 mins.  a better va maybe spends only 10 mins.  however, the 90sec+waiting_hours delay won&#039;t go anywhere -- that&#039;s it, you only save 10 mins switching to better va assuming waiting_hours is the same</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@p: it&#8217;s the view source, copy paste that takes most time</p>
<p>you can cookup a script to fetch source code, regex find image links, loop fetch the images &#8212; maybe a one liner wget downloading 1-level-deep jpg file is easier</p>
<p>@rob: the whole deal can be done in at most 5 mins.  if this step is critical to an important project, you eliminate the delay of 90sec+20min+waiting_hours, not mentioning the dollar wasted</p>
<p>your va probably did the same (view source, copy url, get image) that s/he spent 20 mins.  a better va maybe spends only 10 mins.  however, the 90sec+waiting_hours delay won&#8217;t go anywhere &#8212; that&#8217;s it, you only save 10 mins switching to better va assuming waiting_hours is the same</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@P - I don&#039;t even know where to begin. You&#039;ve completely missed the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@P &#8211; I don&#8217;t even know where to begin. You&#8217;ve completely missed the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.softwarebyrob.com/2009/07/14/one-of-the-most-common-startup-roadblocks/comment-page-1/#comment-20929</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To P:
Please wait by the phone. My outsourced assistant will be calling you with my response to your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To P:<br />
Please wait by the phone. My outsourced assistant will be calling you with my response to your post.</p>
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		<title>By: P</title>
		<link>http://www.softwarebyrob.com/2009/07/14/one-of-the-most-common-startup-roadblocks/comment-page-1/#comment-20925</link>
		<dc:creator>P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perl? Please. Put your links in a text file, then:

for $i in $(cat links.txt) ; do wget $i ; done

Save yourself $2 and 24 hours of waiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perl? Please. Put your links in a text file, then:</p>
<p>for $i in $(cat links.txt) ; do wget $i ; done</p>
<p>Save yourself $2 and 24 hours of waiting.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.softwarebyrob.com/2009/07/14/one-of-the-most-common-startup-roadblocks/comment-page-1/#comment-20898</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Josh - It feels like a big risk when you first start outsourcing. I made a lot of mistakes in the early days both with drip outsourcing and outsourcing in general, so I think it would be helpful to share some of my experiences.

I&#039;ll make a note to write something up on the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Josh &#8211; It feels like a big risk when you first start outsourcing. I made a lot of mistakes in the early days both with drip outsourcing and outsourcing in general, so I think it would be helpful to share some of my experiences.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll make a note to write something up on the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.softwarebyrob.com/2009/07/14/one-of-the-most-common-startup-roadblocks/comment-page-1/#comment-20894</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post. I&#039;m sold.

I&#039;d like to hear more about your experience interviewing, hiring, and tasking VAs and other outsourcers. I&#039;ve read Tim Ferris&#039; book and I&#039;m convinced getting some of my work in other people&#039;s hands is the way to go...but I haven&#039;t figured out how yet. I need smaller steps and a better visualization of what happens. (That or I just need to jump in the pool )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post. I&#8217;m sold.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to hear more about your experience interviewing, hiring, and tasking VAs and other outsourcers. I&#8217;ve read Tim Ferris&#8217; book and I&#8217;m convinced getting some of my work in other people&#8217;s hands is the way to go&#8230;but I haven&#8217;t figured out how yet. I need smaller steps and a better visualization of what happens. (That or I just need to jump in the pool )</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.softwarebyrob.com/2009/07/14/one-of-the-most-common-startup-roadblocks/comment-page-1/#comment-20891</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris - Who says I&#039;m not doing that already? :-)

Actually, I&#039;m not doing that, but I have used a VA for research-heavy content and I would do it for a research-heavy blog post.

But having someone write blog posts for me? Nah...I&#039;m too picky about what I say and how I say it to put my name on someone else&#039;s words.

It&#039;s funny you should mention this - Tim Ferriss posted &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2008/03/31/the-grand-illusion-the-real-tim-ferriss-speaks/&#039;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; on April Fool&#039;s day last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris &#8211; Who says I&#8217;m not doing that already? <img src='http://softwarebyrob.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Actually, I&#8217;m not doing that, but I have used a VA for research-heavy content and I would do it for a research-heavy blog post.</p>
<p>But having someone write blog posts for me? Nah&#8230;I&#8217;m too picky about what I say and how I say it to put my name on someone else&#8217;s words.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny you should mention this &#8211; Tim Ferriss posted <a href='http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2008/03/31/the-grand-illusion-the-real-tim-ferriss-speaks/'>this post</a> on April Fool&#8217;s day last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Mullins</title>
		<link>http://www.softwarebyrob.com/2009/07/14/one-of-the-most-common-startup-roadblocks/comment-page-1/#comment-20890</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, at what point are you going to outsource the writing of your blogs? You send a one sentence idea to your virtual blogger, (s)he sends back 3 or 4 pages worth on that topic....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, at what point are you going to outsource the writing of your blogs? You send a one sentence idea to your virtual blogger, (s)he sends back 3 or 4 pages worth on that topic&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.softwarebyrob.com/2009/07/14/one-of-the-most-common-startup-roadblocks/comment-page-1/#comment-20888</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tim - You&#039;re thinking about it the right way. One thing you should consider is whether you&#039;re building the project more for fun, or to make money.

If it&#039;s fun there&#039;s no question you should learn it yourself. I would guess you will enjoy learning the technical aspects more than outsourcing them.

If you want to make it into a real business that generates real income, seriously consider a small amount of outsourcing. In the long run you will be much happier once you&#039;ve built the skill of outsourcing. It&#039;s like a muscle - it has to develop over time.

It&#039;s not to say you cannot have a project that&#039;s both fun and a business, but it seriously decreases your chance of success. There are a few examples out there, but they are the one in a million long-shots that you shouldn&#039;t count on.

If you&#039;re trying to build a real business, learning new skills that you can otherwise outsource for little money is not an optimal business decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tim &#8211; You&#8217;re thinking about it the right way. One thing you should consider is whether you&#8217;re building the project more for fun, or to make money.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s fun there&#8217;s no question you should learn it yourself. I would guess you will enjoy learning the technical aspects more than outsourcing them.</p>
<p>If you want to make it into a real business that generates real income, seriously consider a small amount of outsourcing. In the long run you will be much happier once you&#8217;ve built the skill of outsourcing. It&#8217;s like a muscle &#8211; it has to develop over time.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not to say you cannot have a project that&#8217;s both fun and a business, but it seriously decreases your chance of success. There are a few examples out there, but they are the one in a million long-shots that you shouldn&#8217;t count on.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re trying to build a real business, learning new skills that you can otherwise outsource for little money is not an optimal business decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.softwarebyrob.com/2009/07/14/one-of-the-most-common-startup-roadblocks/comment-page-1/#comment-20885</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great read!

I started a project recently and just started thinking about outsourcing parts of it. The thing that makes me ponder it is that, on one hand, I know that there are many parts that I&#039;m not an expert in and could use some help, but on the other hand, I think I&#039;d enjoy learning them. The engineer in me would be proud to finish the project by himself!

Of course, it&#039;s all a matter of how much risk I&#039;m ready to take (money spent outsourcing vs. time lost learning) and how much of an opportunity I think this project is...

Still pondering. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great read!</p>
<p>I started a project recently and just started thinking about outsourcing parts of it. The thing that makes me ponder it is that, on one hand, I know that there are many parts that I&#8217;m not an expert in and could use some help, but on the other hand, I think I&#8217;d enjoy learning them. The engineer in me would be proud to finish the project by himself!</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s all a matter of how much risk I&#8217;m ready to take (money spent outsourcing vs. time lost learning) and how much of an opportunity I think this project is&#8230;</p>
<p>Still pondering. <img src='http://softwarebyrob.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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